Comments on: I Am the Walrus http://www.sheece.com/blog/2008/08/30/i-am-the-walrus/ i sleep in empty rooms Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:11:17 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Nivedita Nair http://www.sheece.com/blog/2008/08/30/i-am-the-walrus/comment-page-1/#comment-803 Nivedita Nair Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:49:57 +0000 http://www.sheece.com/blog/?p=119#comment-803 This is actually my favorite post of yours and "I Am The Walrus" is my all time favorite Beatles song! :) This is actually my favorite post of yours and “I Am The Walrus” is my all time favorite Beatles song! :)

]]> By: Partho PC http://www.sheece.com/blog/2008/08/30/i-am-the-walrus/comment-page-1/#comment-757 Partho PC Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:27:08 +0000 http://www.sheece.com/blog/?p=119#comment-757 Hello! I agree with what Anon said about Gandhi. But I also agree with you. What Gandhi probably didn't realize was that those close to him, especially Pandit Nehru, would completely turn away from him during the framing of the constitution and after independence. Nehru's the real father of the nation, Gandhi is only the father of the Directive Principles of State Policy, which are not likely to become law anytime soon. Gandhi knew what should be, he just didn't get a chance to find a way to make it happen when everyone else is trying to do what they think is easier to do. Sometimes I think Gandhi's idea of how the world should be is really one of the easiest things to start and sustain, if only people could understand that. Hello!

I agree with what Anon said about Gandhi. But I also agree with you. What Gandhi probably didn’t realize was that those close to him, especially Pandit Nehru, would completely turn away from him during the framing of the constitution and after independence. Nehru’s the real father of the nation, Gandhi is only the father of the Directive Principles of State Policy, which are not likely to become law anytime soon. Gandhi knew what should be, he just didn’t get a chance to find a way to make it happen when everyone else is trying to do what they think is easier to do. Sometimes I think Gandhi’s idea of how the world should be is really one of the easiest things to start and sustain, if only people could understand that.

]]> By: Anon http://www.sheece.com/blog/2008/08/30/i-am-the-walrus/comment-page-1/#comment-756 Anon Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:05:45 +0000 http://www.sheece.com/blog/?p=119#comment-756 As for Gandhi, you can get the achieves of Young India in which he extensively published. --- I'd certainly agree on the delusion part. When you say everyone, I assume you mean everyone religious. I'd agree there too :-) As for Gandhi, you can get the achieves of Young India in which he extensively published.
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I’d certainly agree on the delusion part. When you say everyone, I assume you mean everyone religious. I’d agree there too :-)

]]> By: sheece http://www.sheece.com/blog/2008/08/30/i-am-the-walrus/comment-page-1/#comment-755 sheece Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:55:47 +0000 http://www.sheece.com/blog/?p=119#comment-755 (Anon, why are you keeping your identity secret? I am not sure you will read this now, but anyway, here it is...) Post-colonial anarchy is it? Interesting, where can I read up about it? May be he did see the demons, that reassures my faith in him even more. --------------- As for one wishing to interpret books the way they want to... well very frankly if we are only twisted in the head then we can see it as violent texts. Also the texts I am referring to are on Koran and Gita, as they are the texts I have read completely. The bits of Bible, I read, also still makes me feel the same. If I adhere to a document which tells me what meaning to take from it, I am attaching more importance to the that the original texts themselves. If I am deluding myself, then everyone else is equally deluding themselves. Why is their delusion better than mine? But I accept the rightist philosophies have managed to create a better delusion than I have. ---------- Thank you for the comment, I believe we are on the same side of the river. :) (Anon, why are you keeping your identity secret? I am not sure you will read this now, but anyway, here it is…)

Post-colonial anarchy is it? Interesting, where can I read up about it? May be he did see the demons, that reassures my faith in him even more.

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As for one wishing to interpret books the way they want to… well very frankly if we are only twisted in the head then we can see it as violent texts. Also the texts I am referring to are on Koran and Gita, as they are the texts I have read completely. The bits of Bible, I read, also still makes me feel the same. If I adhere to a document which tells me what meaning to take from it, I am attaching more importance to the that the original texts themselves. If I am deluding myself, then everyone else is equally deluding themselves. Why is their delusion better than mine?

But I accept the rightist philosophies have managed to create a better delusion than I have.

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Thank you for the comment, I believe we are on the same side of the river. :)

]]> By: Anon http://www.sheece.com/blog/2008/08/30/i-am-the-walrus/comment-page-1/#comment-752 Anon Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:51:21 +0000 http://www.sheece.com/blog/?p=119#comment-752 Gandhi failed to see these demons. It was probably his biggest failure. Even Batman of Dark Knight failed to see these demons. ------ If you want to point at hopeless political parties which cash in on manipulating uninformed voters, Gandhi did see them. Gandhi was a proponent of postcolonial anarchy. It was the congress party who sidelined him for anarchy wasn't a practical solution. Thanks to an immature democracy, we have parties like BJP and SP deteriorating the country. extremely successful over the years. ------ Isn’t Hinduism or Islam in its truest principle as socialist as it can get? ------ The simplest and most direct answer would be no. Islam is violent and Hinduism is unjust. If one wishes to read the books of these religions with a conviction that they are 'all good for all times' then they are a biased reader. The art of interpretation of the sacred texts has been developed by all religious schools. It's called Poorva-mimansa for Hinduism and Tasfir in Islam. If one follows these interpretations, the Qoran is simply horrifying. The socially decisive texts of Hinduism (manusmriti and puranas, not the vedas and upanishadas) appear as unjust and brahminical. If one wishes to interpret the books the way they wish to interpret them, denying the true nature of the books, I have nothing to say. Gandhi failed to see these demons. It was probably his biggest failure. Even Batman of Dark Knight failed to see these demons.
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If you want to point at hopeless political parties which cash in on manipulating uninformed voters, Gandhi did see them. Gandhi was a proponent of postcolonial anarchy. It was the congress party who sidelined him for anarchy wasn’t a practical solution. Thanks to an immature democracy, we have parties like BJP and SP deteriorating the country.
extremely successful over the years.
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Isn’t Hinduism or Islam in its truest principle as socialist as it can get?
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The simplest and most direct answer would be no. Islam is violent and Hinduism is unjust. If one wishes to read the books of these religions with a conviction that they are ‘all good for all times’ then they are a biased reader. The art of interpretation of the sacred texts has been developed by all religious schools. It’s called Poorva-mimansa for Hinduism and Tasfir in Islam. If one follows these interpretations, the Qoran is simply horrifying. The socially decisive texts of Hinduism (manusmriti and puranas, not the vedas and upanishadas) appear as unjust and brahminical.

If one wishes to interpret the books the way they wish to interpret them, denying the true nature of the books, I have nothing to say.

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